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sharee

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vet ikke helt omdette passer hĂŠr mn:
Kan winamp lese humÞret mitt? Kan det merke at jeg er trÞtt og er det grunnen til at plutselig begynner det Ä spille alle sovesangene mine etter hverandre (har pÄ shuffle)? Ikke det at det er et problem, men det er litt spooky....

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InnleggSkrevet: Lűr 11 Okt 2003, 06:52
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Glahn

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Jeg hÄper virkelig ikke Winamp kan det. SÄ enkelt bÞr det virkelig ikke vÊre Ä lese tanker, at noe sÄ dumt som en datamaskin kan gjÞre det.

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InnleggSkrevet: Lűr 11 Okt 2003, 11:41
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"datamaskiner er dumme, de kan bare gi svar"
[salvador dali]

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InnleggSkrevet: Man 13 Okt 2003, 15:19
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Strider

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sharee skrev:
vet ikke helt omdette passer hĂŠr mn:
Kan winamp lese humÞret mitt? Kan det merke at jeg er trÞtt og er det grunnen til at plutselig begynner det Ä spille alle sovesangene mine etter hverandre (har pÄ shuffle)? Ikke det at det er et problem, men det er litt spooky....


Naturligvis kan winamp lese tankene dine. Hva trodde du? Vi lever altsÄ i det 21. Ärhundre, min godeste.

Glahn: Man trenger nĂždvendigvis ikke bli sjokkert fordi et individs tanker/fĂžlelser gir utslag i elektroniske gjenstander? Det hadde vĂŠrt noe annet om maskinen hadde utviklet en intelligens og forutsa individidet. DA hadde vi vĂŠrt forutsigbare.

Etter WTC freaket jo elektroniske mÄleapparater i hele verden ut. En teori er at de registrerte fÞlelser, sterke menneskelige fÞlelser, om de nÄ var positive eller negative. Hvis dette stemmer kan det jo hende at menneskeheten har en kollektiv bevissthet (om ikke Änd?) som fÞrer til at vi mennesker EGENTLIG ikke vil skade hverandre i det heletatt.

OG

Er denne kollektive sjelen Gud?

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 14 Okt 2003, 08:42
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nÄ ble jeg direkte urolig her... *se stygt pÄ datamaskinen*

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 14 Okt 2003, 08:51
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sharee skrev:
nÄ ble jeg direkte urolig her... *se stygt pÄ datamaskinen*


Pass deg, ellers gÄr printeren berserk og prÞver Ä kvele deg med store mengder ark! Very Happy

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 14 Okt 2003, 08:54
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Strider skrev:
sharee skrev:
vet ikke helt omdette passer hĂŠr mn:
Kan winamp lese humÞret mitt? Kan det merke at jeg er trÞtt og er det grunnen til at plutselig begynner det Ä spille alle sovesangene mine etter hverandre (har pÄ shuffle)? Ikke det at det er et problem, men det er litt spooky....


Naturligvis kan winamp lese tankene dine. Hva trodde du? Vi lever altsÄ i det 21. Ärhundre, min godeste.

Glahn: Man trenger nĂždvendigvis ikke bli sjokkert fordi et individs tanker/fĂžlelser gir utslag i elektroniske gjenstander? Det hadde vĂŠrt noe annet om maskinen hadde utviklet en intelligens og forutsa individidet. DA hadde vi vĂŠrt forutsigbare.

Etter WTC freaket jo elektroniske mÄleapparater i hele verden ut. En teori er at de registrerte fÞlelser, sterke menneskelige fÞlelser, om de nÄ var positive eller negative. Hvis dette stemmer kan det jo hende at menneskeheten har en kollektiv bevissthet (om ikke Änd?) som fÞrer til at vi mennesker EGENTLIG ikke vil skade hverandre i det heletatt.

OG

Er denne kollektive sjelen Gud?


Er dette med de elektroniske mÄleapparatene vitenskaplig undersÞkt? Hvis ikke er det knapt mer enn en interessant anekdote som man burde titte nÊrmere pÄ.

Og det er stor forskjell pÄ Ä gi utslag pÄ elektroniske apparater, og at de kan lese tanker. NÄr jeg sier "leser" mener jeg ogsÄ "forstÄ" til en viss grad...

ForÞvrig kan man jo ogsÄ med diverse tekniske hjelpemidler lese av hjernebÞlger, men hva hjernebÞlgene betyr... derom strides de lÊrde.

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 14 Okt 2003, 18:01
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Er dette med de elektroniske mÄleapparatene vitenskaplig undersÞkt? Hvis ikke er det knapt mer enn en interessant anekdote som man burde titte nÊrmere pÄ.


Ja, dette er vitenskapelig bevist. Diverse forskerstasjoner rundt over hele verden har en liten maskin som ikke gjÞr annet enn Ä dure ut med nuller og ettall i tilfeldig rekkefÞlge. Etter 9/11 i usa og raskt over hele verden ble de tilfeldige resultetene tydelig fÞrskjÞvet. Det har ogsÄ vist seg at det samme skjer hvis man tar med seg maskinene pÄ fotballkamper. Tendensen er at hvis mange memmesker fÞler sterkt samtidig blir maskinene pÄvirket.

Det har ogsÄ blitt eksperimentert med enkeltmennesker, som f. eks. fÄr se pÄ en dataskjerm som er programmert til Ä veksle mellom et koslig og et ubehagelig bilde i tilfeldig rekkefÞlge. ForsÞkspersonene ble bedt om Ä konsentrere seg om Ä pÄvikre maskinen til Ä vise det koselige bildet. I overraskende mange tilfeller funket det. De forsÞkspersonene som oppga at de var forelsket, oppnÄdde stÞrst resultat.


SĂ„ nei, det er slett ikke vitenskapelig umulig at winamp kan lese tankene dine. Du skulle ikke tilfeldigvis vĂŠre forelsket? Wink

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 14 Okt 2003, 18:13
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Jeg har lest om slike eksperimenter fÞr, hvor man har forsÞkt Ä vise at mennesker kan med tankens kraft pÄvirke en "random generator" eller hva man nÄ skal kalle det - en maskin som spyr ut nuller og ett-tall i helt tilfeldig rekkefÞlge.

Jeg har ogsÄ lest kritikkene av disse eksperimentene, og for hver gang man har tatt hÞyde for kritikken, jo mindre blir utslagene pÄ tallrekkene. I det hele tatt er det ennÄ ikke foretatt et eneste slikt eksperiment hvor resultatene har motstÄtt kritiske undersÞkelser i etterkant.

I det hele tatt er denne typen vitenskap alt annet enn ukontroversiell.

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 14 Okt 2003, 18:25
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Jeg har lest om slike eksperimenter fÞr, hvor man har forsÞkt Ä vise at mennesker kan med tankens kraft pÄvirke en "random generator" eller hva man nÄ skal kalle det - en maskin som spyr ut nuller og ett-tall i helt tilfeldig rekkefÞlge.

Jeg har ogsÄ lest kritikkene av disse eksperimentene, og for hver gang man har tatt hÞyde for kritikken, jo mindre blir utslagene pÄ tallrekkene. I det hele tatt er det ennÄ ikke foretatt et eneste slikt eksperiment hvor resultatene har motstÄtt kritiske undersÞkelser i etterkant.

I det hele tatt er denne typen vitenskap alt annet enn ukontroversiell.


Don't be a bore! Wink

Zatharee: Hvis man sÄ er forelsket i MUSIKK, deriblant MUSIKKBRINGEREN; winamp, vil utslagene bli sterkere? Very Happy Kanskje et gjensidig forhold mellom winamp og winampbruker ville utvikle seg, noe lignende en symbiose? Razz

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 14 Okt 2003, 20:56
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Allow me to bore you to tears Smile

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 14 Okt 2003, 20:59
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Strider skrev:

Zatharee: Hvis man sÄ er forelsket i MUSIKK, deriblant MUSIKKBRINGEREN; winamp, vil utslagene bli sterkere? Very Happy Kanskje et gjensidig forhold mellom winamp og winampbruker ville utvikle seg, noe lignende en symbiose? Razz


Thi.. dette Äpner for heelt nye horisonter. Hva skjer nÄr winamp bilr sjalu pÄ cd-spilleren?? Vil den begynne Ä spille brintney spears pÄ repeat..? Hva skjer nÄr man er fulstendig synkronisert med winamp, vil winamp nÄ nirvana??

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 14 Okt 2003, 21:06
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Ooooh! Eg vil leva i symbiose med iTunes! Very Happy

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InnleggSkrevet: Ons 15 Okt 2003, 09:24
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Min Winamp har en tendens til Ă„ spille sanger jeg ikke vil hĂžre, tror jeg skal holde et Ăžye med den i fremtiden..

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InnleggSkrevet: Fre 17 Okt 2003, 08:37
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Winampen min kan ikke lese tanker tror jeg..
MEN! Den kan formidle sangartistenes tanker!
Og det er egentlig i grunn godt nok for meg. Cool

SĂ„ det

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InnleggSkrevet: Fre 17 Okt 2003, 10:07
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men hvis det er sÄnn at Þhm...tekniske ting...(kom ikke pÄ no fancy ord for det akkurat nÄ) pÄvirkes av fÞlesesmessige impulser sÄ burde det jo i teorien vÊre mulig Ä kunne konstruere en spiller/datamaskin som spiller musikk som forholder seg etter humÞret/den fÞlelsesmessige tilstanden din?
Hvis man f.eks har et slags "rating" system men i stedet for Ă„ bare skrible inn hvor MYE man liker en sang sĂ„ kan man skrible inn NÅR man liker sangen...nĂ„r man er sint, lei seg, glad...osv.

Eller?

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InnleggSkrevet: Fre 17 Okt 2003, 17:12
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...og ironisk nok sÄ satte windows media player'n min pÄ Las Ketchup med engang jeg postet innlegget.

er det et tegn?

(hvorfor i #1**€ har jeg den pÄ mp3???)

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InnleggSkrevet: Fre 17 Okt 2003, 17:18
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...og ironisk nok sÄ satte windows media player'n min pÄ Las Ketchup med engang jeg postet innlegget.

er det et tegn?

(hvorfor i #1**€ har jeg den pÄ mp3???)


kan vÊre et tegn pÄ at maskinen din er ondsinnet og vil torturere deg via media player'n med meningslÞs og latterlig musikk, eller at den prÞver Ä si at du bruker alt for mye tid pÄ dsgf...
nei, hvem vet, datamaskiner er jo tross alt dumme! Very Happy

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InnleggSkrevet: Fre 17 Okt 2003, 17:59
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Hvorfor i all verden har du Las Ketchup pÄ maskinen din, da?

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InnleggSkrevet: Fre 17 Okt 2003, 18:11
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Kanskje hun har blit hypnotisert (av maskinen(?)) til Ă„ laste den ned...

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