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Ville du vært redd terrorisme, om du bodde i USA?
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Optimist

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Meget interessante tall.

'Terrorism is the "greatest threat of the 21st century". But only according to the US, the UK, and Israel.'

2800 mennesker er drept av terrorisme i USA og UK sammenlagt, nesten alle på 9/11, de siste 7 årene.

Det er 1000 mennesker færre enn antall sivile USA/UK drepte i afghanistan KUN i 2002. Selv haiangrep er en større trussel mot amerikanere enn terrorister, i et helt vanlig år. Hvorfor da alt hysteriet rundt terrorisme, advarsler overalt, (ikke minst i UK, jeg bor der for tiden), ekstreme restriksjoner på fly, overvåkning osv...

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0472

"THE REAL TERRORISTS

Nobody has benefitted more from terrorism than the US, the UK, and Israel. They use terrorism as an excuse to change the law, giving more power to the authorities and withdrawing freedoms from the people. They use terrorism as an excuse to attack and conquer foreign lands. They exploit our fear to win support.

If terrorism and WMD are such a threat, what are the causes? Nobody provides more money to terrorist groups and rogue states than the US and the UK. Nobody has or sells more weapons than the US and UK.

Can you see what is happening here? Or are you still afraid of the boogey-man?"

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InnleggSkrevet: Søn 31 Des 2006, 15:34
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toth42

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Hadde jeg bodd i New York og følt det på kroppen, hadde jeg kanskje hatt en viss skepsis.. Hadde jeg bodd i f.eks Florida tror jeg ikke jeg hadde vært redd i hele tatt. Her i Norge har jeg aldri ofret den frykten en kløvet tanke..

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InnleggSkrevet: Søn 31 Des 2006, 16:27
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haakoo

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Nei. Det skal litt til før jeg kjøper propaganda. Men jeg håper jeg finner meg en jobb som gjør at jeg stortsett slipper å være i usa. Det er derimot helt andre grunner enn terrorisme mot usa.

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InnleggSkrevet: Søn 31 Des 2006, 17:31
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aniraC

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Om jeg hadde vært redd? Hrmf..Ja kanskje litt.. Men det hadde ikke stoppet meg i å ta diverse ting og gjøre diverse ting. Hvis vi stenger oss helt inne, så har jo terroristene vunnet..

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InnleggSkrevet: Man 01 Jan 2007, 03:09
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Glahn

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Jeg ville vært langt mer bekymra for å bli skutt av en eller annen idiot av en småkriminell med skytevåpen, enn bekymra for terrorisme.

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InnleggSkrevet: Man 01 Jan 2007, 15:33
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Pyro

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Ja. Jeg ville hatt nok med å bekymre meg for andre amerikanere, og hva de plutselig kan finne på....

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InnleggSkrevet: Man 01 Jan 2007, 17:33
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Asfrith

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Glahn skrev:
Jeg ville vært langt mer bekymra for å bli skutt av en eller annen idiot av en småkriminell med skytevåpen, enn bekymra for terrorisme.


What he said.

Likevel, det finnes flere skytevåpen per person i Norge enn i USA, så jeg vet ikke, jeg...

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 02 Jan 2007, 13:26
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Ronja

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Asfrith skrev:
Glahn skrev:
Jeg ville vært langt mer bekymra for å bli skutt av en eller annen idiot av en småkriminell med skytevåpen, enn bekymra for terrorisme.


What he said.

Likevel, det finnes flere skytevåpen per person i Norge enn i USA, så jeg vet ikke, jeg...


Det er ikke helt riktig. I Norge regner man med at det finnes ca. 1,3 millioner våpen til privat bruk.

Vi ligger under USA, hvor man nesten har ett våpen per innbygger.

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InnleggSkrevet: Lør 10 Feb 2007, 14:31
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haakoo

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Diskusjonen om antall våpen ble flytta til tråden Våpen i USA vs Norge.

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InnleggSkrevet: Lør 10 Feb 2007, 15:56
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theJack

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En ting i sammenheng med terrorisme som trussel målt opp mot haiangrep:

Haiangrep må til en viss grad oppsøkes. Å sikre seg mot haiangrep er å bade der hai ikke finnes. (Haifinnes)

Terrorangrep er i den sammenheng motsatt, navnet peker mot frykten man skal oppleve. De rammer kanskje vilkårlig, men om de rammer planmessig er målene trolig de som ikke oppsøker fare, eller på annet vis utsetter seg selv for risiko.

Terrorangrep kan også gå mer direkte på ressurser enn haiangrep gjør.

Men horisonten skal jo være noe videre. Man skal åpne for naturkatastrofer av de galeste proporsjoner. Hvis, og mye taler for dette, vi er i ferd med å ødelegge vår verden på miljøfronten, er denne trusselen enda større. Der kjenner jeg et lite stikk av frykt helt frem til Oslo. I USA ville jeg nok fryktet bomben mer, fordi den rammer snarere.

Men det er jo ikke daglige skybrudd av slikt heller.

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InnleggSkrevet: Tir 03 Apr 2007, 15:08
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